Pope Prohibits Masses

[cutekitten]

If that ain’t the quintessential 21st-century news story, I don’t know what is

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/et-tu-franciscus-pope-francis-latin-mass-pope-benedict/

Rod says alphabet Masses are okay. I want to know, what if the LGBTQETC Mass is said in Latin?

Comments

[mollari]

I really wonder how much longer the Catholic Church can survive now that the pope is removing the core source of her spiritual power....

[cutekitten]

Oh, the Church survive

[cutekitten]

Oop, I fat-fingered. The Church survived all the other bad Popes, it’ll probably survive this one too. And don’t forget he’s a Jesuit, so he’ll probably pull more nutty tricks during his papacy.

The men who should be called to account are the cardinals. They elected him (knowing he was a Jesuit!) and they have made no effort to remove him even though he has done everything he possibly can to prove himself unfit to be Pope. Although many people do not know it, you don’t have to be a priest to be Pope, but you DO have to be a Christian.

The Church has been weakening ever since it began backing away from Latin. I don’t think anyone knows the reason, but Latin seems to have spiritual power that English lacks (don’t have enough info about any other language to have an opinion, sorry). I have read that most Anglophone exorcists use the old rite, and say it in Latin, because it works so much better. I got the impression that the new vernacular rite asks the demons to please go away, whereas the old Latin rite is more like blowing itching powder at them while blasting Slim Whitman’s Greatest Hits or Rush Limbaugh at full volume and putting dead fish in all the air vents. Eventually even the toughest demon can’t take any more:

[mollari]

As a former Roman Catholic I find it wryly amusing that Pope Francis seems to be doing everything possible to prove to me I made the right decision: he's proving all of my reasons for doubting the Church as an institution were entirely valid. I cannot imagine what it's like for the people who are still in the church and believe in it to deal with him. And the Cardinals ought to be punished in an appropriate fashion for electing a Jesuit! Frankly though I'm not sure what it should be, but given it's a Jesuit, it needs to be very creative and out there.

I know what you mean about the Latin forms having more power! I'm not sure if it's the language or any of the enormous number of other changes Vatican II did to the mass, but the old Latin Mass has an immense spiritual power. I got to experience it once, and if it were possible for me to attend it regularly I strongly suspect I would have become Roman Catholic again.

As for the exorcists, I doubt that anyone would want to use the new rite for the exorcism: when dealing with something as dangerous as demonic possession, you want to use everything you can, and the new rite seems to lack spiritual power, while the old rite is overflowing with it.

With regard to church's long term survival, I think it really depends on the next pope. If the next one keeps the near total ban on the old rite, I think the church will be pretty much dead in a few decades; if not, then I think it'll stick around for a while yet.

[cutekitten]

I’m inclined to agree with you: